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this i was told by an fbi agent at a lie level, if this involved a high level fbi executive, he would have been out the door the same day. they wouldn't have left him in office. yet he was in office from the spring until october. and then just by coincidence obama is told two days after the election? it's so transparent that this is a big coverup. and the real issue, as you mentioned, is the blackmail issue. and that is russian foreign intelligence criminals, if they had gotten on to this affair, would have used it as blackmail against petraeus to get our biggest secrets, and that's why with the security clearance you are not supposed to compromise yourself in this way. >> let me go to the congressman. so the fbi director had to know. he meets with the president. eric holder had to know, he meets with the president. we are saying a cia director that is involved in a compromising situation that's correct that was not brought to the attention of the president? what if it wasn't? is that not dereliction of duty in is that not incompetence on that part? if the president did know, what doe
this i was told by an fbi agent at a lie level, if this involved a high level fbi executive, he would have been out the door the same day. they wouldn't have left him in office. yet he was in office from the spring until october. and then just by coincidence obama is told two days after the election? it's so transparent that this is a big coverup. and the real issue, as you mentioned, is the blackmail issue. and that is russian foreign intelligence criminals, if they had gotten on to this...
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the fbi thought that he would be immediately asked to resign. that's what would normally happen with a government employee, but, in fact, the white house said no, we want to wait until after the election. so agents were furious. i've been given insight to the actual agents that were doing the case, and they think it's inexcusable that this was allowed to continue for months without firing him. >> let me just jump in there, ronald. obviously, this is all your independent claims and reporting. we've been unable to corroborate this in the time scale we've had tonight but you do have very good fbi sources. i want to turn to bob baer. he's the cnn does this make sense to you that this could be the sequence of events? >> oh, absolutely, but i tend to attribute more significance to the fbi of getting into petraeus' e-mails. the fbi, as a matter of course, doesn't look at affairs, doesn't read military officers' e-mails or cia officers. they have to be alerted to some sort of crime or counterintelligence problem. i can only speculate what that would be.
the fbi thought that he would be immediately asked to resign. that's what would normally happen with a government employee, but, in fact, the white house said no, we want to wait until after the election. so agents were furious. i've been given insight to the actual agents that were doing the case, and they think it's inexcusable that this was allowed to continue for months without firing him. >> let me just jump in there, ronald. obviously, this is all your independent claims and...
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earlier i asked why would the fbi investigate cia e-mails. >> because the fbi has jurisdiction if someone uses the internet to threat another person, so that's where the investigation began. it was not against director petraeus. it was because threats were being received over the internet and since they're coming in to someone working at cia headquarters and particularly in the executive area, that prompted the fbi to go ahead and investigate the threat. >> okay, so the big concern here then, that an outsider could have access quite simply to sensitive information and intelligence. >> well, that's the concern, when it starts, but when you look into that, in the cia or fbi headquarters or any of the intel agencies, often you have dual computer systems to that you can receive outside e-mails because someone might send a complaint over the public internet service providers, and then of course you have the classified e-mail systems internally, and they're completely separate, but the fact that someone's receiving a threat at that level, they have to investigate and look at the nature of the t
earlier i asked why would the fbi investigate cia e-mails. >> because the fbi has jurisdiction if someone uses the internet to threat another person, so that's where the investigation began. it was not against director petraeus. it was because threats were being received over the internet and since they're coming in to someone working at cia headquarters and particularly in the executive area, that prompted the fbi to go ahead and investigate the threat. >> okay, so the big concern...
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she went to the fbi and doesn't realize that the fbi would do a total investigation in on her as well call petraeus. >> she is getting e-mails. and wouldn't she go to petraeus, you wouldn't believe this e-mail. i am getting them. >> if she had shame. >> but she thought she was so connected no one could bring her down. >> that is it a double entrendry. >> there is it one lawsuit and you know that a civil one could come between jill kelley and suing paula broadwell. she has been psycher stalked and she could actually go out and go after paula for doing that. >> you are sleeping with the head of the cia and you can write an autobigrammy . and you have no credentials to do and we'll award you money. >> some people think the terrorist attack caused by a youtube video. and people may. >> gloria allred will call jim kelley. >> her name will not be smoking. >> aren't you concerned about the fact that men can be so weak that they can're - can be manipulated. if you could read my mind 23 hours a day. we are sick human beings and we are visually stimulated and sexually predatorial. nand yes, we
she went to the fbi and doesn't realize that the fbi would do a total investigation in on her as well call petraeus. >> she is getting e-mails. and wouldn't she go to petraeus, you wouldn't believe this e-mail. i am getting them. >> if she had shame. >> but she thought she was so connected no one could bring her down. >> that is it a double entrendry. >> there is it one lawsuit and you know that a civil one could come between jill kelley and suing paula broadwell....
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bob barrows also joins us and bob, let me ask you about this fbi investigation. it began in the early summer. the president was only informed after the election. his director of national intelligence informed at 5:00 on election day. congressional leaders were informed even after the resignation. defense secretary leon panetta was asked today whether capitol hill should have been notified sooner and said, i want to quote, that's another issue we ought to look at because as former director of the cia and having worked closely with the intelligence committees, you know, i believe there is a responsibility to make sure they're informed. did they handle this correctly? >> no. somebody dropped the ball. you never blind side the president. when a senior official in his administration under investigation when e-mails are being read, you inform the white house at a very high level. national security adviser. his council. even the president himself. you always do that. it's a standing protocol inside the federal government. never blindside the president. as far as i've se
bob barrows also joins us and bob, let me ask you about this fbi investigation. it began in the early summer. the president was only informed after the election. his director of national intelligence informed at 5:00 on election day. congressional leaders were informed even after the resignation. defense secretary leon panetta was asked today whether capitol hill should have been notified sooner and said, i want to quote, that's another issue we ought to look at because as former director of...
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was not passed to the head of the fbi for four days t took four days to find the head of the fbi, i don't know why, and the fbi is saying the reason why they can't get information promptly to the director is because hurricane sandy delayed the message. figure on that one. the fbi may be at her house tonight but they have been dragging their feet trying to move this. >> well, i think there's still a lot of questions that are to be answered as to the timeline, why certain things were done when. i think that's one of the big outstanding questions. but, you know, a lot of it gets back to the very beginning, which is the question i've heard a lot from folks of that just been reading our stories is why did the fbi start this investigation anyway? i get weird or annoying e-mails all the time and i don't run to the fbi and if i did i don't know that the fbi would do anything about it. that's another reason there's some i think gaps that need to be explained as to how this process began and where it ended up. >> of course, you have to go back to the fact there are four americans mured in the
was not passed to the head of the fbi for four days t took four days to find the head of the fbi, i don't know why, and the fbi is saying the reason why they can't get information promptly to the director is because hurricane sandy delayed the message. figure on that one. the fbi may be at her house tonight but they have been dragging their feet trying to move this. >> well, i think there's still a lot of questions that are to be answered as to the timeline, why certain things were done...
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months before the fbi was brought on to the case. the white house is backing general allen, officials say his nomination to nato could be derailed, if hen cat get past the controversy of being swept up in the scandal. >> andrea mitchell starting us off from washington tonight. >>> jill kelley's name has come up in connection with two of this nation's top commanders. more on her story tonight from kristen welker. >> how are you doing? >> jill kelley was well known in social circles around tampa, long before she became fodder for the tabloids in new york. she and her husband threw lavish parties at their bayshore home. black tie, top notch catering, a couple about town. >> jill is always smiling, vivacious. >> reporter: aaron publishes tampa bay magazine, that had the kelley's frequenting the pages. >> there was always a bevy of people surrounding them. it seemed like no matter where they went, people enjoyed talking to them, being with them. >> reporter: and they were often seen hobnobbing with top military brass, including david petr
months before the fbi was brought on to the case. the white house is backing general allen, officials say his nomination to nato could be derailed, if hen cat get past the controversy of being swept up in the scandal. >> andrea mitchell starting us off from washington tonight. >>> jill kelley's name has come up in connection with two of this nation's top commanders. more on her story tonight from kristen welker. >> how are you doing? >> jill kelley was well known in...
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the story that's been coming out in bits and pieces all afternoon long, but now we are learning the fbi had begun an investigation prior to this announcement trying to see if america's national security had been compromised. gary newenberg has been following this still developing story and he has the latest. >> reporter: stories like this often come as surprise, but it's not a cliche to use the word shock in this case. petraeus had a squeaky clean reputation as a by the book career general who climbed the military ladder quickly with success
the story that's been coming out in bits and pieces all afternoon long, but now we are learning the fbi had begun an investigation prior to this announcement trying to see if america's national security had been compromised. gary newenberg has been following this still developing story and he has the latest. >> reporter: stories like this often come as surprise, but it's not a cliche to use the word shock in this case. petraeus had a squeaky clean reputation as a by the book career...
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what we now know about the mysterious women who ignited a fbi investigation of the man in charge of the cia. and lawmakers of every political stripe circling with questions about the timing of his departure. . >> he quit over a woman after the fbi uncovered his misdeed. now the head of the intelligence committee says she was never told they were in trouble. >> this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. >> tonight, with petraeus gone from the cia, will we ever get the whole story about what happened the the night four americans were murdered in libya? >> and 3000 miles away from washington, in the vast mojave desert. a new effort to preserve a longstanding symbol of faith. fox reports live from the site. and-- >> americans honoring generations of veterans for keeping our freedom and liberty secure. >> a fox urgent. i'm harris falkner on the behavior tonight that ended the career of general david patriot. you may know by now, he admits he had an extramarital affair and quit suddenly on friday because of it. we knew it involved e
what we now know about the mysterious women who ignited a fbi investigation of the man in charge of the cia. and lawmakers of every political stripe circling with questions about the timing of his departure. . >> he quit over a woman after the fbi uncovered his misdeed. now the head of the intelligence committee says she was never told they were in trouble. >> this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. >> tonight,...
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when you have those two things, that's the fbi's real role. in terms of the cia, they wouldn't have taken an investigatory look. i think they're going to have to deal with the shock of it all. >> paula introduced herself to david petraeus. she was a paratrooper, attractive, in great shape. petraeus has always be attracted to intellectual officers. she was writing a book. they used to in afghanistan, they would go on five-mile jogs together, but he goes out on file mile jogs with a lot of reporters who are capable, but it's a very strange and completely surprising. >> it is and i'll leave it with this, that paula broadwell just published this week, general david petraeus' rules for living. we all make mistake, learn from them, drive on and avoid making them again. next, we have more on the resignation. peter king, the chair of the homeland security committee with how it could put the u.s. at risk. plus, after spending millions to elect mitt romney, has karl rove lost his touch? a look at all the money spent and wasted this election and it has b
when you have those two things, that's the fbi's real role. in terms of the cia, they wouldn't have taken an investigatory look. i think they're going to have to deal with the shock of it all. >> paula introduced herself to david petraeus. she was a paratrooper, attractive, in great shape. petraeus has always be attracted to intellectual officers. she was writing a book. they used to in afghanistan, they would go on five-mile jogs together, but he goes out on file mile jogs with a lot of...
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>> i would prefer you to the fbi. they have -- as i understand it protocols in place for when they notify the legislative and executive branches of investigations. and, you know, it is simply a fact that the white house was not aware of the situation regarding general petraeus until wednesday, and the situation regarding general allen until friday. so, you know, the fbi is the place to go in terms of an explanation of the protocols they follow. but i understand that that is the answer that they will give, that there are protocols they follow, that govern how they inform the various branches of government of these kinds of investigations. >> do you understand how people would think this is utterly bizarre, i mean the day after the election, and the anger you're hearing on capitol hill that they didn't know this was going on, at least the timing, at least the appearance. >> look, all i can tell you is when the white house was informed. and i would let the relevant members of congress explain to you how and when they wer
>> i would prefer you to the fbi. they have -- as i understand it protocols in place for when they notify the legislative and executive branches of investigations. and, you know, it is simply a fact that the white house was not aware of the situation regarding general petraeus until wednesday, and the situation regarding general allen until friday. so, you know, the fbi is the place to go in terms of an explanation of the protocols they follow. but i understand that that is the answer...
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he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of events and why it took as lock as it did to find out that the nation's chief intelligence person was under investigation. let's just go through this timeline again. it started in may. the fbi at that time first started looking into anonymous harassing e-mails sent to jill kelley. that's where agent humphries comes in. it was late in the summer when high level officials at the fbi and justice department were told that their investigation had also uncovered an affair between david petraeus and his biographer, paula broadwell. it's not clear when mueller and holder were notified, but in mid october, the fbi interviewed paula broadwell and david petraeus. eric cantor was told of
he put it all on the fbi. >> the fbi has its own protocalls in terms of how they proceed and i'm going to let director mueller and others examine these protocalls and make some statements to the public. >> now, the fbi is facing intense criticism over its handling of the investigation. perhaps, that's why robert mueller made an unexpected visit to capitol hill today to answer questions. at issue is the timeline of events and why it took as lock as it did to find out that the...
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had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi, everybody there was asked do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. so that -- you know, i don't know whether -- what they said yesterday is exactly right or not, but what i do know is that every member of the intelligence community said that references to al-qaeda were removed by somebody and they don't know who. and references to attacks versus demonstrations were removed by somebody. >> let me ask you a question. will your committee, call on excuse son rice to ask her to testify? >> i don't know the answer to that right now. we will talk about that. we have two more hearings scheduled. >> do you think she will be called? >> she's going to have to come in and of it at some point. whether it's in a closed hearing or open hearing. we will have an open hearing too but at some point she needs to come in and say what the president or the white house directed her to say. >> senator leiberm
had every leader of the intelligence community there, including folks from the state department, the fbi, everybody there was asked do you know who made these changes? and nobody knew. the only entity that reviewed the talking points that was not there was the white house. so that -- you know, i don't know whether -- what they said yesterday is exactly right or not, but what i do know is that every member of the intelligence community said that references to al-qaeda were removed by somebody...
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so i think the fbi has a lot of questions to answer. >> lots of people including my next guest obviously have serious doubts, serious misgivings about the administration's contention that thes president only learned aftr the election about the sex scandal that destroyed general david petraeus' career. he is congressman from utah. thanks for being with us. why does it stick in your craw that eric holder said he only told the president after the election was over? >> well, look. general petraeus wasn't heading up the fish and while life department. he's the head of the cia. if there's an investigation, a question about what he's doing in his personal life, i think that should come to the the president of the united states. he may not to choose to do anything, but to leave him in the dark is inexcusable. >> ik hear skepticism in your voice. do you believe that there is some misreception going on? >> what i'm worried about is that somewhere between the fbi and the department of justice, somebody didn't take this to the president of the united states. when you're the head of the central intel
so i think the fbi has a lot of questions to answer. >> lots of people including my next guest obviously have serious doubts, serious misgivings about the administration's contention that thes president only learned aftr the election about the sex scandal that destroyed general david petraeus' career. he is congressman from utah. thanks for being with us. why does it stick in your craw that eric holder said he only told the president after the election was over? >> well, look....
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kelley complained to an fbi agent and somehow, an fbi investigation into cyber stalking was opened, one that led the fbi to read broadwell's e-mails, then petraeus' and here we are. cyber stalking investigations appear to be rare. thousands of women are cyber stalked every year. the recourse for them is often nothing, which is a problem. ten cases have been prosecuted. somehow in this case, because jill kelly knew a guy, an investigation got opened here. if the thing that decides whether a case is open is someone has an agent's business card, then we are in trouble. in the midst of this coverage, it's difficult to separate it from trivial and the relevant. as gripping as the tale is, it is almost entirely that, a human drama. people acting as people do. i'm reasonably sure, a sweep of e-mails opened at random would reveal similarly sorted things. that's the point. we all have facts about ourselves we don't want the world to know. it's why privacy is important. details over our lives matter as a core protection from state overreach. the power that comes from inside knowledge of a person'
kelley complained to an fbi agent and somehow, an fbi investigation into cyber stalking was opened, one that led the fbi to read broadwell's e-mails, then petraeus' and here we are. cyber stalking investigations appear to be rare. thousands of women are cyber stalked every year. the recourse for them is often nothing, which is a problem. ten cases have been prosecuted. somehow in this case, because jill kelly knew a guy, an investigation got opened here. if the thing that decides whether a case...
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fox news has learned an fbi investigation exposed the affair. sources say agents were investigating a bigger case that led them to the other woman. the woman wrote a book about general petraeus called on in. he broke the news to the president yesterday face to face at the white house asking to resign as cia director for what he called personal reasons. today general petraeus told cia staffers, quote: after being married for over 37 years i showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in extramarital affair. such behavior is unacceptable. both as a husband and a leader of the organization such as ours. this afternoon, president obama graciously accepted my resignation. general petraeus was set to testify on capitol hill next week about the terror attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. tonight, fox news has learned he will not be testifying. we have team fox coverage now. ed henry with reaction from the white house. first though to chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge live from our d.c. newsroom. catherine, you're now uncovering mu
fox news has learned an fbi investigation exposed the affair. sources say agents were investigating a bigger case that led them to the other woman. the woman wrote a book about general petraeus called on in. he broke the news to the president yesterday face to face at the white house asking to resign as cia director for what he called personal reasons. today general petraeus told cia staffers, quote: after being married for over 37 years i showed extremely poor judgment by engaging in...
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i think really, too, the focus tomorrow is going to be on the fbi and the fbi's deputy director, sean joyce, is going to have some hearings. as you heard right at the top of the show, piers, members of congress are very upset that they weren't notified about this. was there a national security risk, if there was, they should have been notified. if there wasn't a national security risk, why did the fbi go to james clapper, the director of national intelligence, on the night of the election. so maybe the president will put some of those things to rest tomorrow. but the fbi really hasn't come out and said much at all so a lot of the information that's been coming out about this case has been through leaks and anonymous sources. >> i think the reason the fbi is not saying anything is because this is going to be deeply embarrassing when we get to the bottom of it. thank you both very much. >>> i want to turn to a member of general petraeus' inner circle, his former spokesman, colonel steve boylan. colonel, thank you for joining me. when did you last speak to david petraeus? >> i spoke with
i think really, too, the focus tomorrow is going to be on the fbi and the fbi's deputy director, sean joyce, is going to have some hearings. as you heard right at the top of the show, piers, members of congress are very upset that they weren't notified about this. was there a national security risk, if there was, they should have been notified. if there wasn't a national security risk, why did the fbi go to james clapper, the director of national intelligence, on the night of the election. so...
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. >> the affair was uncovered by the fbi. that's right, the fbi, which sometime during the summer investigated harassing e-mails sent to this woman, petraeus family friend jill kelly. that probe determined that the e-mails, which included an admonition to, quote, back off, came from paula broadwell. while combing through broadwell's e-mails they came upon david petraeus. let's stop it here and bring in suzanne -- suzanne kelly in washington, our intelligence correspondent. suzanne, a lot of ground to cover here. we have this video that has surfaced of paula broadwell, last month, speaking at the university of denver and she's speaking here as david petraeus' biographer about the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. let's take a listen. >> i don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the cia an annex had taken a couple prisoner and they think the attack on the consulate was an attempt to get the prisoners back. that's still being vetted. >> where did she hear that? did it come from david petraeus and do we k
. >> the affair was uncovered by the fbi. that's right, the fbi, which sometime during the summer investigated harassing e-mails sent to this woman, petraeus family friend jill kelly. that probe determined that the e-mails, which included an admonition to, quote, back off, came from paula broadwell. while combing through broadwell's e-mails they came upon david petraeus. let's stop it here and bring in suzanne -- suzanne kelly in washington, our intelligence correspondent. suzanne, a lot...
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>> i am worry about somewhere between the fbi and department. justice. someone didn't take it to the president of the united states. and when you are the period of the central intelligence agency. that is vital something that may be compromisinglet person. i don't want to the end. but i want the president to know in the beginning. and do you worry that the fbi was overaggressive in seeking out the facts and circumstances surrounding the affair. >> it is it always a legitimate. but when you are dialing with the cia director, it is a little different than most other people and because there is it such implication for national security. a lot of questions and answers and i don't want to jump to too many. you have four dead people in the benghazi and in the hospital still tonight. >> what about congressman king's contention on friday that there was a change in the national briefing that mentioned al-qaida. and by the time susan rice went on the sunday, infamous appearances on the sunday talk shows, that was deleted from her brief. >> if that is true, mr. pre
>> i am worry about somewhere between the fbi and department. justice. someone didn't take it to the president of the united states. and when you are the period of the central intelligence agency. that is vital something that may be compromisinglet person. i don't want to the end. but i want the president to know in the beginning. and do you worry that the fbi was overaggressive in seeking out the facts and circumstances surrounding the affair. >> it is it always a legitimate. but...
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shannon: we know the fbi was investigating. they weren't after petraeus but they apparently stumbled on information that drew in this personal information. but for the fbi to have access to the e-mails of the director of the cia, i imagine somebody in the executive branch would have had to have known. access would have been grants or there would have been some red flags raised at some high levels. >> i'm not discussing the merits of the indiscretion so much as i am the government process. from the reports we have to date i think the fbi's conduct is sensible right up to the point where they discover relationship between he trace and broadwell. i find it incredible to think once that was uncovered it did not go immediately to the director of the fbi. i find incredible once the director learned he wouldn't call up the attorney general and say i need to put this in front of you. if the "wall street journal" is correct that this happens in the late summer, let's say labor day. a little bit before labor day. what did eric holder do
shannon: we know the fbi was investigating. they weren't after petraeus but they apparently stumbled on information that drew in this personal information. but for the fbi to have access to the e-mails of the director of the cia, i imagine somebody in the executive branch would have had to have known. access would have been grants or there would have been some red flags raised at some high levels. >> i'm not discussing the merits of the indiscretion so much as i am the government process....
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we're not going in to the fbi investigation or the inspector general or anything else. this is benghazi. >> on thursday in a briefing which stretched more than three and a half hours, intelligence officials showed lawmakers real time film of the attack for the first time. >> the film is a composite from a number of sources. it is real time. it does begin from when the incident started and it goes through the incident. and the exodus. >> attorney general eric holder is defending the fbi publicly for the first time as some lawmakers say the agency was too slow to inform them and the president of the petraeus investigation. >> we follow the facts. we do not share outside the justice department, outside the fbi the facts of ongoing investigations. we made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security. >> joining me now nbc's capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell and, kelly, a lot of moving parts on capitol hill this morning. what questions are lawmakers interested in putting to petraeus? any new information out o
we're not going in to the fbi investigation or the inspector general or anything else. this is benghazi. >> on thursday in a briefing which stretched more than three and a half hours, intelligence officials showed lawmakers real time film of the attack for the first time. >> the film is a composite from a number of sources. it is real time. it does begin from when the incident started and it goes through the incident. and the exodus. >> attorney general eric holder is...
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the fbi apparently acted by the book. you don't tip off the white house when you're engaging in a potentially criminal investigation. the agent in florida who then worried that the investigation was being stalled and went to a republican congressman who went to eric cantor, he has an illustrious record. he helped bring down the millennium plot. you can't blame him, either, for his apparent concern that this was not being studied appear prop it i can't tellly. so then the story got out, and i think general petraeus has acted honorably in resigning. i think he is going to do fine. he is going to get a book contract. he apparently wants to be president of princeton. he will have a year of probably giving speeches, making a lot of money. i don't feel sorry for him. >> if he wrote a book with the lady who wrote about him, paula broadwell, all in the education of david petraeus. he cooperated practically on the entire book. now he's going to write another book? >> he can write one about himself. he's not the author of this. thi
the fbi apparently acted by the book. you don't tip off the white house when you're engaging in a potentially criminal investigation. the agent in florida who then worried that the investigation was being stalled and went to a republican congressman who went to eric cantor, he has an illustrious record. he helped bring down the millennium plot. you can't blame him, either, for his apparent concern that this was not being studied appear prop it i can't tellly. so then the story got out, and i...